tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13996416.post114073321790200577..comments2023-10-20T11:18:35.696-04:00Comments on on coffee: 20 things to do while you’re not multiplying churchesoncoffeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11247590396091771981noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13996416.post-1140793150498277582006-02-24T09:59:00.000-05:002006-02-24T09:59:00.000-05:00See my next post for some further observations on ...See my next post for some further observations on churches that "suck"... and that is the reason for "planting". I think there are times when a church culture is so dysfunctional / self-absorbed / unwilling to be what God calls the church into being for, that the only real solution is a new church. But having said that, there are too many church plants that are planted for the wrong reasons. Too many churches that are about us than about God; about me than about the world around us for whom God sent his Son for.oncoffeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11247590396091771981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13996416.post-1140787035878957912006-02-24T08:17:00.000-05:002006-02-24T08:17:00.000-05:00I would both disagree but yet agree with blogger L...I would both disagree but yet agree with blogger Lewis' comment above. <BR/><BR/>DISAGREE: Because 'Churches' are NOT buildings; they are a redeemed creation, a people, who are now Holy as they are found in Jesus Christ. We don't suck. We were purchased with an enormous cost. <BR/><BR/>AGREE: The way we act as and in the church 'SUCKS'. It does suck to be us when we attempt to do things God never asked us to do! (activities such as a ridiculous list posted). Watchman Nee calls this 'righteous flesh'. God dispises this as much as the acts of a carnal rebellious unredeemed creation. Why - Central to both is the root of Rebellion and Disobedience. Sounds like original sin eh?<BR/><BR/>There are times, that the church chooses to operate outside of Jesus. When we walk in obedience, the church will be successful in every regard. So take the noble man- made programs of church club and shove it - replace it with God centered obedience! Let God do the work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13996416.post-1140747668201741652006-02-23T21:21:00.000-05:002006-02-23T21:21:00.000-05:00Most churches suck. Totally irrelevant. And usua...Most churches suck. Totally irrelevant. And usually irreverant. Not to God, but to life. Assuming many things of people that are simply not true. Out of touch.<BR/><BR/>What's all this business about "planting"?<BR/><BR/>Why plant more if you can't even grow what you've already got?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.com